CLEAN body DIRTY mind

Most people sense something is off.

They just stay busy enough not to look at it too closely.

Hosted by Jake Thomas and Kaysha Kosman, CLEAN body DIRTY mind is a podcast built around pulling at that thread—slowly, honestly, and without needing a conclusion.

What begins as conversation often turns into something else: questioning routines, dissecting beliefs, and exposing contradictions in how people live, think, build, and relate to each other. Health shows up. So does business—what it means to create something, carry responsibility, make decisions, and deal with the pressure that comes with it. Relationships, identity, and the quiet habits people use to avoid themselves aren’t far behind.

Nothing is packaged. Nothing is resolved for you.

Some ideas will land. Others won’t.

That’s the point.

There’s no performance here—just a willingness to say things out loud that are usually edited, softened, or ignored.

Listen if you’re interested in thinking a little deeper.

Or if you’re starting to realize you already are.